You're not the first person who was shocked at how I turned out. :) 

But - yeah - I also don't really... it isn't that I do it on purpose... I just am a little broad-spectrum or ADD, so when I get something into my head - "no" doesn't actually mean a lot to me. It isn't the only personality flaw I suffer from - or it isn't the only way whatever it is that doesn't work with me manifests itself *as* a personality flaw... 

I got in trouble over on Uncensored recently for this. Seeing my daughter diagnosed as very high spectrum made a lot of bells go off for me about myself - and the things I just don't  about how normal people behave. 

But, also, I honestly don't *care* about it the way normal people do, either. It isn't that I'm indifferent - it is that I've never really connected with emotions the way other people describe them. 

I try to be as normal as I can be - often, it isn't enough for a lot of people. 

Sat Dec 19 2020 19:34:37 MST from Otto Roboto

 

Sat Dec 19 2020 07:26:00 PM MST from ParanoidDelusions

Whaddayaknowabout me? 

:) 

From what I know of Charles, No really means No.

 

I was there when you first started visiting Citadel boards, and then set up your own system.  I know of your "troubled" youth, as well as your transformation into the tech world, and read many of your articles over the years.

Was a little surprised of the family man you became after seeing you in your teen years...

Wait a minute. 

You're PAGAN. Um... shit. I forget your real name. I'm almost certain that you went by the name Otto Roboto too... and... I think you're the perfect profile, age wise. I haven't found that damn collection of your writing, but thinking about that made the light go off on this... 

I was just writing about looking for your collected works and I went, "Otto Roboto... kind of a late 50's, early 60's cultural vibe... that kind of funky, hip sense of..." 

I'm right, aren't I? 

Sat Dec 19 2020 20:08:15 MST from ParanoidDelusions

You're not the first person who was shocked at how I turned out. :) 

But - yeah - I also don't really... it isn't that I do it on purpose... I just am a little broad-spectrum or ADD, so when I get something into my head - "no" doesn't actually mean a lot to me. It isn't the only personality flaw I suffer from - or it isn't the only way whatever it is that doesn't work with me manifests itself *as* a personality flaw... 

I got in trouble over on Uncensored recently for this. Seeing my daughter diagnosed as very high spectrum made a lot of bells go off for me about myself - and the things I just don't  about how normal people behave. 

But, also, I honestly don't *care* about it the way normal people do, either. It isn't that I'm indifferent - it is that I've never really connected with emotions the way other people describe them. 

I try to be as normal as I can be - often, it isn't enough for a lot of people. 

Sat Dec 19 2020 19:34:37 MST from Otto Roboto

 

Sat Dec 19 2020 07:26:00 PM MST from ParanoidDelusions

Whaddayaknowabout me? 

:) 

From what I know of Charles, No really means No.

 

I was there when you first started visiting Citadel boards, and then set up your own system.  I know of your "troubled" youth, as well as your transformation into the tech world, and read many of your articles over the years.

Was a little surprised of the family man you became after seeing you in your teen years...

 

I was also surprised when you began visiting my Citadel back in the day... and had forgotten that I had given you AIDE status, and I think I recall that I had Aide status on Yoyodyne, eventually too, which I also found unlikely. 

No, Pagan Flames was James Ollinger (sp?).  I was also not able to find his collected works.  I do think he might have influenced this handle though.  And as a non-sequitur note, Omni-86 sysop was Charles Meadows, Gary Meadows was Hotel-86.  Might want to update your HOME story page.  lol...

Tue Dec 22 2020 10:09:30 PM MST from ParanoidDelusions

Wait a minute. 

You're PAGAN. Um... shit. I forget your real name. I'm almost certain that you went by the name Otto Roboto too... and... I think you're the perfect profile, age wise. I haven't found that damn collection of your writing, but thinking about that made the light go off on this... 

I was just writing about looking for your collected works and I went, "Otto Roboto... kind of a late 50's, early 60's cultural vibe... that kind of funky, hip sense of..." 

I'm right, aren't I? 

Sat Dec 19 2020 20:08:15 MST from ParanoidDelusions

You're not the first person who was shocked at how I turned out. :) 

But - yeah - I also don't really... it isn't that I do it on purpose... I just am a little broad-spectrum or ADD, so when I get something into my head - "no" doesn't actually mean a lot to me. It isn't the only personality flaw I suffer from - or it isn't the only way whatever it is that doesn't work with me manifests itself *as* a personality flaw... 

I got in trouble over on Uncensored recently for this. Seeing my daughter diagnosed as very high spectrum made a lot of bells go off for me about myself - and the things I just don't  about how normal people behave. 

But, also, I honestly don't *care* about it the way normal people do, either. It isn't that I'm indifferent - it is that I've never really connected with emotions the way other people describe them. 

I try to be as normal as I can be - often, it isn't enough for a lot of people. 

Sat Dec 19 2020 19:34:37 MST from Otto Roboto

 

Sat Dec 19 2020 07:26:00 PM MST from ParanoidDelusions

Whaddayaknowabout me? 

:) 

From what I know of Charles, No really means No.

 

I was there when you first started visiting Citadel boards, and then set up your own system.  I know of your "troubled" youth, as well as your transformation into the tech world, and read many of your articles over the years.

Was a little surprised of the family man you became after seeing you in your teen years...

 

 

I could never keep them or their BBSes straight. :D 
Damnit. I was sure I had you this time! 

Yes. Pagan Flames is James Ollinger. As soon as I read it, I went, "YUP!" 

Well... back to the drawing board.


I think I'll let the historical inaccuracies stand on the homepage story. It wouldn't be an "In Search Of," episode unless it was badly researched and had obvious things wrong.  It gives it a kind of meta-humor quality. :D 

I think OS X is going to be instrumental in helping me find the missing collection. Or narrowing it down to few enough machines that it will be trivial to find it. 

Wed Dec 23 2020 15:59:38 MST from Otto Roboto

No, Pagan Flames was James Ollinger (sp?).  I was also not able to find his collected works.  I do think he might have influenced this handle though.  And as a non-sequitur note, Omni-86 sysop was Charles Meadows, Gary Meadows was Hotel-86.  Might want to update your HOME story page.  lol...

Tue Dec 22 2020 10:09:30 PM MST from ParanoidDelusions

Wait a minute. 

You're PAGAN. Um... shit. I forget your real name. I'm almost certain that you went by the name Otto Roboto too... and... I think you're the perfect profile, age wise. I haven't found that damn collection of your writing, but thinking about that made the light go off on this... 

I was just writing about looking for your collected works and I went, "Otto Roboto... kind of a late 50's, early 60's cultural vibe... that kind of funky, hip sense of..." 

I'm right, aren't I? 

Sat Dec 19 2020 20:08:15 MST from ParanoidDelusions

You're not the first person who was shocked at how I turned out. :) 

But - yeah - I also don't really... it isn't that I do it on purpose... I just am a little broad-spectrum or ADD, so when I get something into my head - "no" doesn't actually mean a lot to me. It isn't the only personality flaw I suffer from - or it isn't the only way whatever it is that doesn't work with me manifests itself *as* a personality flaw... 

I got in trouble over on Uncensored recently for this. Seeing my daughter diagnosed as very high spectrum made a lot of bells go off for me about myself - and the things I just don't  about how normal people behave. 

But, also, I honestly don't *care* about it the way normal people do, either. It isn't that I'm indifferent - it is that I've never really connected with emotions the way other people describe them. 

I try to be as normal as I can be - often, it isn't enough for a lot of people. 

Sat Dec 19 2020 19:34:37 MST from Otto Roboto

 

Sat Dec 19 2020 07:26:00 PM MST from ParanoidDelusions

Whaddayaknowabout me? 

:) 

From what I know of Charles, No really means No.

 

I was there when you first started visiting Citadel boards, and then set up your own system.  I know of your "troubled" youth, as well as your transformation into the tech world, and read many of your articles over the years.

Was a little surprised of the family man you became after seeing you in your teen years...

 

 

 

Besides, Papa Pagan had a much sharper wit and smarter writing style than I ever came up with.  I could code well enough, but lacked any writing style.

Wed Dec 23 2020 04:23:38 PM MST from ParanoidDelusions

I could never keep them or their BBSes straight. :D 
Damnit. I was sure I had you this time! 

Yes. Pagan Flames is James Ollinger. As soon as I read it, I went, "YUP!" 

Well... back to the drawing board.


I think I'll let the historical inaccuracies stand on the homepage story. It wouldn't be an "In Search Of," episode unless it was badly researched and had obvious things wrong.  It gives it a kind of meta-humor quality. :D 

 

I think OS X is going to be instrumental in helping me find the missing collection. Or narrowing it down to few enough machines that it will be trivial to find it. 

 

 

Wed Dec 23 2020 15:59:38 MST from Otto Roboto

No, Pagan Flames was James Ollinger (sp?).  I was also not able to find his collected works.  I do think he might have influenced this handle though.  And as a non-sequitur note, Omni-86 sysop was Charles Meadows, Gary Meadows was Hotel-86.  Might want to update your HOME story page.  lol...

Tue Dec 22 2020 10:09:30 PM MST from ParanoidDelusions

Wait a minute. 

You're PAGAN. Um... shit. I forget your real name. I'm almost certain that you went by the name Otto Roboto too... and... I think you're the perfect profile, age wise. I haven't found that damn collection of your writing, but thinking about that made the light go off on this... 

I was just writing about looking for your collected works and I went, "Otto Roboto... kind of a late 50's, early 60's cultural vibe... that kind of funky, hip sense of..." 

I'm right, aren't I? 

Sat Dec 19 2020 20:08:15 MST from ParanoidDelusions

You're not the first person who was shocked at how I turned out. :) 

But - yeah - I also don't really... it isn't that I do it on purpose... I just am a little broad-spectrum or ADD, so when I get something into my head - "no" doesn't actually mean a lot to me. It isn't the only personality flaw I suffer from - or it isn't the only way whatever it is that doesn't work with me manifests itself *as* a personality flaw... 

I got in trouble over on Uncensored recently for this. Seeing my daughter diagnosed as very high spectrum made a lot of bells go off for me about myself - and the things I just don't  about how normal people behave. 

But, also, I honestly don't *care* about it the way normal people do, either. It isn't that I'm indifferent - it is that I've never really connected with emotions the way other people describe them. 

I try to be as normal as I can be - often, it isn't enough for a lot of people. 

Sat Dec 19 2020 19:34:37 MST from Otto Roboto

 

Sat Dec 19 2020 07:26:00 PM MST from ParanoidDelusions

Whaddayaknowabout me? 

:) 

From what I know of Charles, No really means No.

 

I was there when you first started visiting Citadel boards, and then set up your own system.  I know of your "troubled" youth, as well as your transformation into the tech world, and read many of your articles over the years.

Was a little surprised of the family man you became after seeing you in your teen years...

 

 

 

 

I went back over the Citadel room looking for clues, and couldn't come up with anything. I figured the clue meant, "I'm the only one that is a likely subject who is conspicuously absent from the Citadel group," maybe.

Do you currently live outside the US?

Wed Dec 23 2020 21:55:06 MST from Otto Roboto

Besides, Papa Pagan had a much sharper wit and smarter writing style than I ever came up with.  I could code well enough, but lacked any writing style.

Wed Dec 23 2020 10:08:59 PM MST from ParanoidDelusions

I went back over the Citadel room looking for clues, and couldn't come up with anything. I figured the clue meant, "I'm the only one that is a likely subject who is conspicuously absent from the Citadel group," maybe.

Do you currently live outside the US?

 

Wed Dec 23 2020 21:55:06 MST from Otto Roboto

Besides, Papa Pagan had a much sharper wit and smarter writing style than I ever came up with.  I could code well enough, but lacked any writing style.

 

Well, maybe if I emphasized my involvement in the Citadel development in Sacramento and point out that you have named just about everyone else but me.  Which is rather surprising because you have been all around it.  Just not directly at me.  ;)

And also consider how many details about the beginning of Sacramento's involvement with Citadel that I have presented and who all would really have access to that inside information...

It's right there on the tip of your tongue, you know it is.  How about if I offer the clue of the board I ran:  916-349-8879.  No, I do not own that number any longer...

Vince! 

LOL. You even did a cameo in my most recent story. :D 

Thu Dec 24 2020 17:20:49 MST from Otto Roboto

 

Wed Dec 23 2020 10:08:59 PM MST from ParanoidDelusions

I went back over the Citadel room looking for clues, and couldn't come up with anything. I figured the clue meant, "I'm the only one that is a likely subject who is conspicuously absent from the Citadel group," maybe.

Do you currently live outside the US?

 

Wed Dec 23 2020 21:55:06 MST from Otto Roboto

Besides, Papa Pagan had a much sharper wit and smarter writing style than I ever came up with.  I could code well enough, but lacked any writing style.

 

Well, maybe if I emphasized my involvement in the Citadel development in Sacramento and point out that you have named just about everyone else but me.  Which is rather surprising because you have been all around it.  Just not directly at me.  ;)

 

And also consider how many details about the beginning of Sacramento's involvement with Citadel that I have presented and who all would really have access to that inside information...

 

It's right there on the tip of your tongue, you know it is.  How about if I offer the clue of the board I ran:  916-349-8879.  No, I do not own that number any longer...

Fri Dec 25 2020 07:51:02 AM MST from ParanoidDelusions

Vince! 

LOL. You even did a cameo in my most recent story. :D 

 

Thu Dec 24 2020 17:20:49 MST from Otto Roboto

 

Wed Dec 23 2020 10:08:59 PM MST from ParanoidDelusions

I went back over the Citadel room looking for clues, and couldn't come up with anything. I figured the clue meant, "I'm the only one that is a likely subject who is conspicuously absent from the Citadel group," maybe.

Do you currently live outside the US?

 

Wed Dec 23 2020 21:55:06 MST from Otto Roboto

Besides, Papa Pagan had a much sharper wit and smarter writing style than I ever came up with.  I could code well enough, but lacked any writing style.

 

Well, maybe if I emphasized my involvement in the Citadel development in Sacramento and point out that you have named just about everyone else but me.  Which is rather surprising because you have been all around it.  Just not directly at me.  ;)

 

And also consider how many details about the beginning of Sacramento's involvement with Citadel that I have presented and who all would really have access to that inside information...

 

It's right there on the tip of your tongue, you know it is.  How about if I offer the clue of the board I ran:  916-349-8879.  No, I do not own that number any longer...

 

Vince was not around at the beginning of Citadel in Sacramento.  He came in like the 2nd year, maybe even the 3rd.  And I think you already tried calling me Vince.

Let's try this.  Who did the first compilation of Citadel source code in Sacramento?  I cannot be more direct than that.

Hell, then the only name I feel like is left is maybe Larry Reznick?

Fri Dec 25 2020 14:25:27 MST from Otto Roboto

 

Fri Dec 25 2020 07:51:02 AM MST from ParanoidDelusions

Vince! 

LOL. You even did a cameo in my most recent story. :D 

 

Thu Dec 24 2020 17:20:49 MST from Otto Roboto

 

Wed Dec 23 2020 10:08:59 PM MST from ParanoidDelusions

I went back over the Citadel room looking for clues, and couldn't come up with anything. I figured the clue meant, "I'm the only one that is a likely subject who is conspicuously absent from the Citadel group," maybe.

Do you currently live outside the US?

 

Wed Dec 23 2020 21:55:06 MST from Otto Roboto

Besides, Papa Pagan had a much sharper wit and smarter writing style than I ever came up with.  I could code well enough, but lacked any writing style.

 

Well, maybe if I emphasized my involvement in the Citadel development in Sacramento and point out that you have named just about everyone else but me.  Which is rather surprising because you have been all around it.  Just not directly at me.  ;)

 

And also consider how many details about the beginning of Sacramento's involvement with Citadel that I have presented and who all would really have access to that inside information...

 

It's right there on the tip of your tongue, you know it is.  How about if I offer the clue of the board I ran:  916-349-8879.  No, I do not own that number any longer...

 

Vince was not around at the beginning of Citadel in Sacramento.  He came in like the 2nd year, maybe even the 3rd.  And I think you already tried calling me Vince.

 

Let's try this.  Who did the first compilation of Citadel source code in Sacramento?  I cannot be more direct than that.

Larry Reznick join Sac Citadelphia before Vince, but was not there for the start either.  Although, he did later give me a lot of advice on programming in C.

Fri Dec 25 2020 03:38:07 PM MST from ParanoidDelusions

Hell, then the only name I feel like is left is maybe Larry Reznick?

Fri Dec 25 2020 14:25:27 MST from Otto Roboto

 

Fri Dec 25 2020 07:51:02 AM MST from ParanoidDelusions

Vince! 

LOL. You even did a cameo in my most recent story. :D 

 

Thu Dec 24 2020 17:20:49 MST from Otto Roboto

 

Wed Dec 23 2020 10:08:59 PM MST from ParanoidDelusions

I went back over the Citadel room looking for clues, and couldn't come up with anything. I figured the clue meant, "I'm the only one that is a likely subject who is conspicuously absent from the Citadel group," maybe.

Do you currently live outside the US?

 

Wed Dec 23 2020 21:55:06 MST from Otto Roboto

Besides, Papa Pagan had a much sharper wit and smarter writing style than I ever came up with.  I could code well enough, but lacked any writing style.

 

Well, maybe if I emphasized my involvement in the Citadel development in Sacramento and point out that you have named just about everyone else but me.  Which is rather surprising because you have been all around it.  Just not directly at me.  ;)

 

And also consider how many details about the beginning of Sacramento's involvement with Citadel that I have presented and who all would really have access to that inside information...

 

It's right there on the tip of your tongue, you know it is.  How about if I offer the clue of the board I ran:  916-349-8879.  No, I do not own that number any longer...

 

Vince was not around at the beginning of Citadel in Sacramento.  He came in like the 2nd year, maybe even the 3rd.  And I think you already tried calling me Vince.

 

Let's try this.  Who did the first compilation of Citadel source code in Sacramento?  I cannot be more direct than that.

 

I'm running out of names here. Jim Earl? Have I thrown that one out there?

Sat Dec 26 2020 11:59:40 MST from Otto Roboto

Larry Reznick join Sac Citadelphia before Vince, but was not there for the start either.  Although, he did later give me a lot of advice on programming in C.

Okay, what name have you used a lot, but not directed it at me?

Sat Dec 26 2020 02:00:56 PM MST from ParanoidDelusions

I'm running out of names here. Jim Earl? Have I thrown that one out there?

Sat Dec 26 2020 11:59:40 MST from Otto Roboto

Larry Reznick join Sac Citadelphia before Vince, but was not there for the start either.  Although, he did later give me a lot of advice on programming in C.

This is fucking awesome. It is getting archived. 

Fri Jan 15 2021 18:52:40 MST from TheDave

Fri Jan 15 2021 19:48:43 MSTfrom ParanoidDelusions

This is fucking awesome. It is getting archived. 

Yeah, you're good at stuff like this. I saw something you posted on Farcebook that cracked me up, too. 

Sat Jan 16 2021 00:13:07 MST from TheDave

 

Fri Jan 15 2021 19:48:43 MSTfrom ParanoidDelusions

This is fucking awesome. It is getting archived. 

Glad to be of service.

One thing this BBS seriously needs is a 'like' button, or maybe a pair of 'Upvote' and 'Downvote' buttons. Or maybe I'm just too spoiled by FarceBook.

Sat Jan 23 2021 00:31:12 MST from Jerry Moore Jr.

One thing this BBS seriously needs is a 'like' button, or maybe a pair of 'Upvote' and 'Downvote' buttons. Or maybe I'm just too spoiled by FarceBook.

I do enjoy the ability to react to things with positive or negative feedback.  I think I like downvoting even more than upvoting, though I do tend to upvote more often.