Sat Jan 23 2021 00:05:07 MST from Jerry Moore Jr. Subject: Do I know you?

To: theDave -do I know you, from back in the day? I remember a number of users on my board and elsewhere, named Dave. Are you one of them?

Maybe.  Probably not.  I was Aragorn on Bantoom until I came up with something original and switched to Kamikaze Chipmunk.  I was on Bantoom, Hotel, Deep Thought, and several other boards in the 916 area code.

You probably know at least one of my relatives.  They were a lot bigger into the MUPT scene than I was, since I was just a kid at the time.  Thanatos Prime is my uncle by marriage.

Wed Jan 20 2021 21:07:18 MST from ParanoidDelusions

Wasn't paying enough attention earlier today, and terminated Google Bot's connection thinking it was an actual Google crawler. 
I enjoy kicking them off the BBS as they're crawling. Kinda like plinking rats on the back fence with a Daisy air rifle. 

Sorry. You looked like on of 'em. 

Didn't notice I was kicked.

Sat Jan 23 2021 00:05:07 MST from Jerry Moore Jr. Subject: Do I know you?

To: theDave -do I know you?

This should help you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVzDIE0mr6A

TheDave comes to us via Wangiss who is related through the LDS to Thanatos - if I have my family trees right. 

And that is an altogether weird sentence that you would only ever see on a Citadel BBS. 

Sat Jan 23 2021 00:05:07 MST from Jerry Moore Jr. Subject: Do I know you?

To: theDave -do I know you, from back in the day? I remember a number of users on my board and elsewhere, named Dave. Are you one of them?

LOL... probably easy to miss it, on The Santiarium! :D 

Sat Jan 23 2021 04:35:12 MST from Google Bot

 

Wed Jan 20 2021 21:07:18 MST from ParanoidDelusions

Wasn't paying enough attention earlier today, and terminated Google Bot's connection thinking it was an actual Google crawler. 
I enjoy kicking them off the BBS as they're crawling. Kinda like plinking rats on the back fence with a Daisy air rifle. 

Sorry. You looked like on of 'em. 

Didn't notice I was kicked.

 

 

Sat Jan 23 2021 00:05:07 MST from Jerry Moore Jr.

I just went out and repeated this to my wife and kid as they ate breakfast. 

And added a "Metallica knows The Dave, through Wangiss, who is related through the LDS to Thanatos," to it. 

They looked at me and said, "that isn't an actual sentence." 
:D

Sat Jan 23 2021 08:16:27 MST from ParanoidDelusions Subject: Re: Do I know you?

TheDave comes to us via Wangiss who is related through the LDS to Thanatos - if I have my family trees right. 

And that is an altogether weird sentence that you would only ever see on a Citadel BBS. 

 

 

I didn't go to bed that early, and last night was so dead on Citadel that it drove me to Facebook to pass the time. 

Looks like y'all got a late start on Friday night, this week. 

I just ordered another Raspberry Pi. It's a Pi 4 B. I'm so excited! I'm going to have an external hard drive attached to it to stream media from, and do some home automation with it in my office. This is the future I was waiting for. Tiny, pocket computers that increase my personal agency. Yes, the cell phone already did that, but this one worships only me. Zucc doesn't even know about it.

I'll probably set up a BBS sooner or later. The sidenet is beautiful.

I also just finished my fourth annual reading of the DAEMON / Freedom(TM) duology, and it's got me all hopped up on distributed governance like it always does. Man, getting a real Holon going would be SWEET. It's a holistically organized voluntary community. Such a great story.

I started ripping my hundreds of CDs a couple years back but babies broke my laptop's internal DVD drive and I had to stop. External DVD drives are only $25 now. CRAZY! So I grabbed one at Walmart and I'm building my offline media library up. I miss these songs. It's going to be amazing to finally put them in a storage chip and load them into all my devices, plus stream them from my new Pi via WiFi and/or BlueTooth. I'm in love.

OKAY LAST POST FOR A BIT. Just caught up and thought a few of your posts needed a reply.

"But Tradewars is still a thing - and I'd love to run a local instance of it and have it accessible through a door/gateway inside the BBS." - PD

I would feel like I'd entered a new and better world if I were playing a fresh installation of TW2002. This would be a sort of Jungian ascension for my perceivable existence. I hope you do this.

"Biden inauguration happens, traffic here falls off a literal cliff." - PD

My absense was grudging and Biden-unrelated. I'm only here right now because my wife is too tired to go through evening ritual of putting the kids to bed so she's taking a break in the other room while the rest of us surf the web and watch Who Am I starring Jackie Chan. It's nice to be back.

"I'll be back again, sooner, and I will remember this one." - Jerry

Cool, Jerry. See you around.

"They're tattle-tales." - PD

Yes, I can't believe the banal and antiseptic things that get me 12-hour bans from the lumpenproletariat.

1: Yeah - the problem seems to be is that all I would be doing is rerouting to some other website running TradeWars. It looks like it requires Windows, from my preliminary research - which would mean hosting *another* machine, this one running Windows - and the security implications of that are kind of like making this server able to send and receive e-mail. It introduces a whole other level of security concerns to the BBS and to my network - *and* - I'm still just redirecting you from this BBS to different website. So, it isn't quite the same as a door that runs here and TradeWars becomes an additional draw to log in to the BBS. Once you figured it out, you would be able to bypass the BBS completely and go directly there. So, I'm still working out the logistics. Look at how long I talked about WallOfHate before I actually put something up. It could be a while. But I *want* to do it. :) 

2: So, Biden isn't the problem? It is your wife and kids? 

3: Yeah, and it has been terrible since Biden "won"... how vocal the terrible people are. How empowered they are. Literally, it is like Slytherin feels like they've got the upper hand at Hogwarts and they can't wait to exercise their power. 

Sat Jan 23 2021 22:27:53 MST from Wangiss

 

 

"But Tradewars is still a thing - and I'd love to run a local instance of it and have it accessible through a door/gateway inside the BBS." - PD

 

I would feel like I'd entered a new and better world if I were playing a fresh installation of TW2002. This would be a sort of Jungian ascension for my perceivable existence. I hope you do this.

 

"Biden inauguration happens, traffic here falls off a literal cliff." - PD

 

My absense was grudging and Biden-unrelated. I'm only here right now because my wife is too tired to go through evening ritual of putting the kids to bed so she's taking a break in the other room while the rest of us surf the web and watch Who Am I starring Jackie Chan. It's nice to be back.

 

"I'll be back again, sooner, and I will remember this one." - Jerry

 

Cool, Jerry. See you around.

 

"They're tattle-tales." - PD

 

Yes, I can't believe the banal and antiseptic things that get me 12-hour bans from the lumpenproletariat.

Ah, forgot the post about the Pi. 

Yeah - it is awesome. Unfortunately/Fortunately - things worked out for me that right after I bought the Pi 400, mostly as a curiosity - the Apollo Vampire V4 came up available. Vampires are FPGA accelerators that plug right into the 68k socket of an Amiga 500 - replacing the entire machine with an FPGA CPU that is obviously, incredibly faster than a genuine 68k. There are lots of other advantages. The disadvantage is that a lot of purists insist that if it isn't a real CPU core - it is just the same as a MiSTer or other FPGA device - just using an Amiga's base hardware as the case. There is truth to this, but it also illustrates that the "authenticity" of a machine being based on actual hardware as opposed to some kind of simulated hardware is a very subjective thing. 

Anyhow - the V4 is a stand-alone - like the MiSTer - but dedicated solely to the Amiga. It is expensive, and powerful - and billed as "The first new ACTUAL Amiga" and a "68080" CPU. And I've been following its development since 2018. Lots of shortages, difficult to purchase because it sells out quickly every time they do a run, I've been on a waiting list for ever and never heard back from them. This time I joined the waiting list and instantly got a response. So I jumped. 

So, I've been throwing myself into this machine. It is silly. What an Amiga would have been if Motorola had kept development of the 68k until the Pentium, maybe P2 or P3 era. I expected it to take a couple weeks to ship from Germany. Instead, I ordered it on a Thursday and it was here the following Thursday. So... it ended up initially physically displacing my Pi 400. Then it moved somewhere else in my office - and I just got the Pi hooked back up. But, I also have too many projects all at once all of the sudden. 

Glad to have you back, Jerry. I think you're going to enjoy this place once you get settled in. It is more like social media used to be, when social media was good. 

Social media was never good.

It was, before it was called that. It always had its warts - but at least the unclean masses couldn't get there. You had to figure out how to set up a modem and get it to dial, and you had to find the number of a BBS... it was difficult. 

And that was good. 

Make Telecommunications Great Again. 

Mon Jan 25 2021 20:57:06 MST from IGnatius T Foobar

 

Glad to have you back, Jerry. I think you're going to enjoy this place once you get settled in. It is more like social media used to be, when social media was good. 

Social media was never good.

We knew how to behave better online then.  We were chaotic, immature, sometimes shouted at each other, but in the end we knew it was just words on a screen.

Then that horrible monster Mark Zuckerberg came and took OUR playground away.  May he rot in the hottest circle of hell forever.

Things would occasionally get pretty heated... but we were a smaller community - and there was less actual anonymity. Especially after Jerry started organizing MUPTs and we got to actually put faces to the personalities. 

I had a fellow Citadelphian threaten at one point to shove a Louisville slugger up my ass, sideways. She ended up one of the people I liked most from the Citadel community. 

Tue Jan 26 2021 16:20:29 MST from IGnatius T Foobar

We knew how to behave better online then.  We were chaotic, immature, sometimes shouted at each other, but in the end we knew it was just words on a screen.

Then that horrible monster Mark Zuckerberg came and took OUR playground away.  May he rot in the hottest circle of hell forever.

I don't remember if you (PD) were involved, but I'm sure it was someone in your orbit that went over to another user's home and beat him up. That was back before I started the Modem Users' Pizza Thingy (MUPT) meetings. When the internet got here, it not only made people more aggressive, since they couldn't easily find or get at one another, but also reduced the number of incidents like this - which is kinda saying the same thing in two ways.

Tue Jan 26 2021 21:20:27 MST from ParanoidDelusions

Things would occasionally get pretty heated... but we were a smaller community - and there was less actual anonymity. Especially after Jerry started organizing MUPTs and we got to actually put faces to the personalities. 

I had a fellow Citadelphian threaten at one point to shove a Louisville slugger up my ass, sideways. She ended up one of the people I liked most from the Citadel community. 

 

Tue Jan 26 2021 16:20:29 MST from IGnatius T Foobar

We knew how to behave better online then.  We were chaotic, immature, sometimes shouted at each other, but in the end we knew it was just words on a screen.

Then that horrible monster Mark Zuckerberg came and took OUR playground away.  May he rot in the hottest circle of hell forever.

 

I made THREATS occasionally - and one guy - I forget his name, claims I beat him up... 

But I'm a huge pussy. I was all hot air. I had to RUN a couple of times from guys who turned out to be less Modem Geek than I had thought they would turn out to be. In one case, I was with an ex-con who TOLD me to run - and that was the first time ever when that guy wanted us to *run* from a fight. 

The guy we ran from ended up driving around Sacramento with a car full of explosives while the Sac PD tried to talk him down a couple of months later. 

But yeah - if someone beat the shit outta someone else - it was *probably* someone in "my orbit". *sigh*... 

I attracted bad satellites. 

Wed Jan 27 2021 17:38:39 MST from Jerry Moore Jr.

I don't remember if you (PD) were involved, but I'm sure it was someone in your orbit that went over to another user's home and beat him up. That was back before I started the Modem Users' Pizza Thingy (MUPT) meetings. When the internet got here, it not only made people more aggressive, since they couldn't easily find or get at one another, but also reduced the number of incidents like this - which is kinda saying the same thing in two ways.

Tue Jan 26 2021 21:20:27 MST from ParanoidDelusions

 

 

The Bantoom users would all meet on Monday nights at Albert Schweizer Grove and play laser tag with the old Fisher Price guns and sensors from the 80s. That helped the culture a lot. And we're some of my fondest and most epic memories of childhood. 

BBSs were surely social media in the broadest sense. And because it was largely a playground for the technological brotherhood, there was a sort of automatic camaraderie. We liked the same things. If there had been Kardashians, they would have been reviled. Social media has flipped to become the opposite, culturally: an extention of high school rather than an escape from it. 

*were