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[#] Fri May 10 2019 12:05:05 MST from ParanoidDelusions

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So, I haven't seen Endgame yet - but I feel like some of the spoilers I've seen indicate to me that Marvel is increasingly playing with introducing more blatant identity politics into the MCU. 

I just can't get very excited about the path Disney/Marvel is taking the MCU. 
3.5 hours for a Super Hero movie seems real ambitious, too. 
Anyone seen it? Without spoilers... what do you think? 

 

 



[#] Sat May 11 2019 00:16:57 MST from ParanoidDelusions

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Like in this room, you would talk about a movie you liked. Or didn't like. Like, Captain Marvel sucked a male member. 


Then you would click POST message, then click Goto next room. 

 

 



[#] Sat May 11 2019 21:12:08 MST from TheDave

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Fri May 10 2019 12:05:05 MST from ParanoidDelusions

So, I haven't seen Endgame yet - but I feel like some of the spoilers I've seen indicate to me that Marvel is increasingly playing with introducing more blatant identity politics into the MCU. 

I just can't get very excited about the path Disney/Marvel is taking the MCU. 
3.5 hours for a Super Hero movie seems real ambitious, too. 
Anyone seen it? Without spoilers... what do you think? 

 

 



If you've been watching the MCU and you like it, Endgame is totally worth seeing in the theatre.  I was worried because of Captain Marvel but she's not a problem.  There is one scene where they blatantly show off all the female characters charging in together and you can practically see the "THE FUTURE IS FEMALE" tagline under it but that's like 3 seconds of the whole damn movie and it's not anything said, so it doesn't really ruin it.

Current MCU Top 5 (Personal ranking obviously):

1. Infinity War

2. Endgame

3. Doctor Strange

4. Guardians of the Galaxy

5. Ant Man



[#] Sat May 11 2019 21:38:07 MST from ParanoidDelusions

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The SJW Left has made me so hyper-sensitive that even a little scene like that is likely to just ruin the whole fucking thing for me... because I just immediately go, "Oh, you virtue-singal-ing bastards." 
With that said, I'm going to go see it tomorrow afternoon... so, MOSTLY I've avoided spoilers... and hopefully I can get over myself long enough to enjoy it in spite of the "Force is Female" bullshit creeping its way into the MCU. 

 

They server beer at the Alamo theaters... and burgers... so ... who knows... Maybe I'll be able to get through. 

 



[#] Sun May 12 2019 18:41:08 MST from ParanoidDelusions

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No major spoilers: 

It was WAY better than Black Panther - with no 45 minute sleep inducing lull in the middle - but it had plenty of moments of ham-fisted virtue signaling, like Captain America holding a Fight Club style therapy group where a gay guy talks about his first date since the snap and how they both cried... 

Parts were predictable if you know how the Marvel Comics Multiverse and the Marvel Cinematic Universe works... I called several things before I ever saw it. 

And they've clearly signaled that the future is going to ratchet the SJW messaging up to Star Wars levels and beyond, repeating the same mistakes that have made the comics industry tank over the last 10 years. 

I'm sure that when they do that and it fails, they're going to blame the racist, toxic white male incel fanbase - but that is cool, because what is coming isn't for me - so I don't intend to support it. 

Glad they wrapped it up with a fairly decent landing. It could have been way better - but it could have been WAAAAAY worse.

Very little Carol Danvers - which was a little bit too much of her... but better than a LOT of her. 





[#] Mon May 13 2019 12:03:53 MST from ParanoidDelusions

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I'm calling it now. Daenerys is going to kill John Snow, for good this time, because he is a threat to the throne. One of them has to go.

And that will put Arya into action, and she will kill the mad queen.

I think there is a good chance Sansa Stark is going to end up being Queen of the 7 kingdoms.



[#] Mon May 13 2019 12:05:25 MST from ParanoidDelusions

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John has already proven he doesn't have the leadership to be the King of Westeros. He might have made a good King in the North. 

Sansa, through her experience with Littlefinger, Joffery, and Ramsey Bolton, as well as her time in Casterly Rock and the Red Keep, and her similarity to her mother in nature and temperament... 

Is probably the Stark that should sit on the throne.




[#] Mon May 13 2019 21:21:54 MST from ParanoidDelusions

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Jaime Lannister and redemption 

Spoilers for 5/12/2019 and earlier episodes follow:

So, let's take a minute to talk about Jaime Lannister. I know Daenerys is getting most of the attention right now - but more than a few people have raised complaints over Jaime's character arc over the last several episodes.

I don't see any such problem with Jaime's inconsistent and frequently incoherent behavior. The character of Jaime Lannister has been deeply conflicted, troubled and self-critical at least since he lost his hand back in season - whenever.

His character has consistently been portrayed as not incredibly gifted at anything but being a good looking, wealthy Lannister son. He was never a great soldier or knight. Even when fully-able - his reputation as a swordsman was not feared. He wasn't a great military strategist either. He has mentioned several times over the course of the series how he isn't the smartest and frequently not only makes unwise decisions, but the least wise decision in any given situation. He frequently is treated as incompetent and incapable, whispered about behind his back and only accepted because of his family's influence. He is treated, even among his own people, as the spoiled rich kid who wouldn't have anything if not for his father's influence.

At the same time, he has inconsistently shown the potential to be very kind, compassionate, and caring. He is actually the most nurturing person in a family renown for their cold, calculating cruelty at worst, indulgent, narcissistic disinterest at best. 

No one can deny that Tywin is a hard hearted son on a bitch to his family and those in the way of his political aspirations - yet Tywin developed a rough affinity for Arya that I still find difficult to explain. He had to know that a Stark girl was on the run about her age, he was a very astute man, and he knew that this errand-boy hiding right under his nose was actually a girl at a critical time of unrest in his kingdom and he never really pursued it. Maybe being selectively stupid wasn't just his son's curse, or maybe being inconsistently compassionate was in his heart too. I never found a satisfactory answer to this plot-line in the series.

Tyrion, on the other hand, begins the series as a self-indulgent narcissist who drowns his sorrows in alcohol and whores with little concern for the things those around him are suffering.

The entire family is deeply dysfunctional from the start. We know these are just some of the most superficial psychological issues affecting House Lannister when the series begins. The depths of depravity that the Lannister family engages in are far more severe than those described here - and Jaime Lannister is right there with Cersei committing the most disturbing of these events, from the first time we meet them.

Yet, Jaime begins his transformation from 2-dimensional evil-Lannister son as early in the series as Tyrion. The first time we really see Jaime's compassion and inherently good inner nature is when he barters to prevent Brienne of Tarth from being raped. But we see it again with his constant interactions with Tyrion when accused of killing Joffery, and later, killing their father. Throughout the series, we see this constant interaction of Jaime with other people that portrays him as a good person caught in terrible circumstances who consistently makes terrible decisions. He isn't 2-dimensional.

In fact, Jaime is one of the best developed characters in a lot of modern cinema, on TV or the big screen. He is, ultimately, a relatively good approximation of a character of Shakespearean tragic proportions. He has such potential, we see so much hope over the course of the series of his growth and redemption. We become certain his inner-goodness will win out over the choice that we must know is wrong. And up until the most recent episode, we were allowed to entertain that this might happen.

But it didn't.

Because Jaime isn't supposed to be a protagonist that we see grow and change to overcome his liabilities.  Jaime is supposed to be a tragic figure - not one redeemed, but one failed.

And, his failure was utterly predictable. He loved the members of his family with a unshakable loyalty. His little brother killed his father and Jaime still found it in his heart to justify that patricide and forgive Tyrion for this, to aide him in his escape and to assist him several times thereafter.

His love for Cersei was stronger than no other, of course, twisted as it was. He knew she was going to die. He didn't return to save her, to rescue her, to fight by her side. He returned to die with her. It was completely consistent with his character. He went to fight at Winterfell because of the goodness of who he was. He slept with Brienne of Tarth because of the goodness of his heart, facing a future that looked very certain to be the end of both of them. And when they both survived and he realized how formidable Daenery, her armies and the remaining members of House Stark were - he certainly surmised that even weakened, they were going to run down the forces at King's Landing and destroy the forces of House Lannister.

This was not Jaime Lannister's story, or Cersei's, either. It is not the story of Daenerys either. Cersei was not the actual antagonist any more than Tywin was. Daenerys is, in the final episode, the antagonist the entire time, it turns out. I do not think Jon Snow is the protagonist, either. I think over the last several episodes of last season and of this season, it has become clear who this story has always been about. It is why we spent so much time with her and her traveling companion, and then with her by herself, watching her complete the transformation into who she has become. This is the most fully developed character in the series and has been for some time. Her older sister, by the way, had been developed to actually be the most logical choice to actually sit as the Queen of the Seven Kingdoms once the dust settles.

When I think back, I can't help but see it. Game of Thrones, the television series at least - is the story of Arya Stark and her time with the Hound and then at the House of Black and White.

Jaime's role was to die with his sister, tragically - but true to his character. That is what he did. I don't think it makes him irredeemable. It actually illustrates that his motives were always conflicted and questionable but generally not actually evil. I'm good with the way they died, by one another, in the catacombs under King's Landing, as their world and their unspeakable union came crashing down on them. It was symbolically tragic - and better than seeing someone else actually kill Cersei out of revenge.


[#] Thu May 16 2019 00:15:40 MST from Wangiss

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Again, spoiler warning.

 

The only thing that took me out of the movie was the girl power scene. Men work together just fine. Men work with women just fine. But when you really need to save the world, men better not help with the final charge! Guuuurl powerrrrr! 

 

I'll probably see it again, but I don't think it's as rewatchable as Infinity War was. When Thor meets Starlord, man... that's gold.



[#] Thu May 16 2019 08:05:55 MST from ParanoidDelusions

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Minor spoilers:

Captain America hosting a survivor's group where the guy starts talking about his first date since the snap, and how he and the guy he was dating both cried... 

The all-girl charge, I audibly groaned at that scene. 

And Fat-Thor - but the dismantling of Thor has been going on since Ragnarok, so that wasn't unexpected. 

And any scene with Captain Bitchface - although it was great how she showed up, flew through the ship of Thanos all powerful, and instantly got smacked out of the scene like the annoying fucking gnat she is. 

 





[#] Thu May 16 2019 11:35:16 MST from Wangiss

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Thu May 16 2019 08:05:55 MST from ParanoidDelusions Subject: Re: Endgame (SPOILERS!)

Minor spoilers:

Captain America hosting a survivor's group where the guy starts talking about his first date since the snap, and how he and the guy he was dating both cried... 

The all-girl charge, I audibly groaned at that scene. 

And Fat-Thor - but the dismantling of Thor has been going on since Ragnarok, so that wasn't unexpected. 

And any scene with Captain Bitchface - although it was great how she showed up, flew through the ship of Thanos all powerful, and instantly got smacked out of the scene like the annoying fucking gnat she is. 

 





I feel like there are enough upward heroic arcs that a fat Thor, who has PLENTY to be crushed about, is an acceptable counter. Iron Man is the last and first hero, complete with Biblical negotiations, cynical accusations, try-try-again mentality, trauma that he completely overcame, and Christ-type expenditure of literal ultimate power to save all mankind. Having Thor whose entire planet was eradicated get a little depressed until the literal Divine Feminine inspires him with Positive Chaos (in this case the unknown upside potential of the future) is impossible without a valley to match his peaks. And it was hilarious.
If it weren't for the other Super Feminism in the MCU I wouldn't even take your point seriously enough to argue it. Thor couldn't be an acceptable central hero, but he's a great side man imo.



[#] Thu May 16 2019 12:46:31 MST from ParanoidDelusions

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The problem is that the symbolic message and reason for doing this to Thor in particular is patently obvious and a clear manifestation of the goals and agendas of cultural Marxism - which is why it isn't safe to indulge it, even if it works on a comedic level and as part of the story-arc. 

They chose the golden-haired, white God to castrate and turn into a clown on purpose. If they had done the same thing to Black Panther for as blatantly racist of a motivation - people would be justifiably outraged. 

This is what "straight white male privilege" looks like in society today. 



https://twitter.com/dcolbert/status/1124580972991664128

 



[#] Thu May 16 2019 12:59:03 MST from Wangiss

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I'll take that into consideration. I'm still one of those passive racists who doesn't see color, lol. In Del Paso Heights (before we moved to Tahoe Park), my brother and I were the only white kids whose parents weren't in jail. Being white was not a factor except which racial slur I was called when it was time for a stranger to address me. So I don't really think about it. I guess also Nordic-ness isn't on my radar, but I do know that white supremacists tend to refer to that subrace as the Pure Blood, so I can put that together.



[#] Thu May 16 2019 13:27:06 MST from ParanoidDelusions

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Yup.  Here is the thing... I think that non-Caucasians are more likely to think that Caucasians consider Northern European archetypes as the ideal manifestation of Whiteness. I guess white people kid around about it... the toe-headed, pink cheeked, icy-blue-eyed ideal of human creation. But the choice to make Thor comic relief was a conscious one with a very intentional subconscious message to get across. He is the embodiment of White Masculine Perfectness. He is a substitute for Hercules or Davinci's David. There is a reason Valkyrie was black, in Ragnarok too. If it had been done the other way, people would have been outraged about the cultural appropriation. Valkyries should be blonde haired, blue eyed, and statuesque. Not a short, cocky black woman with a lower class British accent. None of these choices are made casually. 

 



[#] Sun May 19 2019 23:30:45 MST from TheDave

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Cultural appropriation is hilarious.



[#] Mon May 20 2019 12:49:05 MST from ParanoidDelusions

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According to the SJWs - the fact that insults roll off of us like water on a duck's back is *because* of our white privilege. The fact that we're not butthurt when they stereotype us is offensive to them. 

 



[#] Wed May 22 2019 07:06:26 MST from ParanoidDelusions

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Imagine an 8th grade English teacher has a class read the Lord of the Rings until the first half of the last book, then has her class write the last half. They take an entire school year to do it, and they end up with 5 more chapters. 


"Then Saruman hugged Sauron, but stabbed him in the side while hugging him, because Saruman had decided Sauron was actually a bad person. Then the orcs threw Saruman in prison - but the hobbits and elves and dwarves and men bargained for Saruman's freedom, and made Frodo the King Under the Mountain. 

The end.




[#] Wed May 22 2019 12:36:58 MST from ParanoidDelusions

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So, the newest Star Wars trilogy - it helps if you think of it like a Tribute Band. 

It is trying real hard to be exactly like the original, but it isn't as good, and has nothing original to offer. If you can reconcile yourself with that, it can be entertaining. 

But it shouldn't be full price. It should be watched in a country fairgrounds as the free show with admission. 






[#] Wed May 22 2019 12:42:58 MST from ParanoidDelusions

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Disney/JJ Abrahms/Kathleen Kennedy/Rian Johnson Star Wars is a band named "Sounds like Teen Spirit." 



[#] Fri May 24 2019 15:48:32 MST from Wangiss

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Wed May 22 2019 12:36:58 MST from ParanoidDelusions

So, the newest Star Wars trilogy - it helps if you think of it like a Tribute Band. 

It is trying real hard to be exactly like the original, but it isn't as good, and has nothing original to offer. If you can reconcile yourself with that, it can be entertaining. 

But it shouldn't be full price. It should be watched in a country fairgrounds as the free show with admission. 






That's exactly what has happened and will happen. I bought the Star Wars trilogy three or four times--VHS, DVD, BluRay, some even to stream for convenience. I only bought the prequels once on DVD. I have only streamed Episode 7 twice and 8 once. Once is the same number of times I streamed the Adam Sandler movie The Ridiculous 6. Because it's trash. I watch it to keep up on the canon, nothing more. I don't expect a good experience. I don't expect it to be rewatchable and CERTAINLY don't expect it to be timeless or in multiple Top 20 Movies of All Time lists like Episode V. Do I even write the new episodes with Roman numerals? I do not.



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